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This is presented not as a means to prove any kind
of specific "point", but rather to give everyone something to think
about. I enjoyed reading this, and I hope you will too.
~Sphynx
Questioner:
are vampires simply magicians with a very odd disposition and an innate special
talent, or are they altogether distinct from the general community of "persons
with unusual capacities?" I'm not referring to ritual or paradigm; just
questioning people's views here on the essential nature of the vampire, and
how it relates to the condition of persons who are users of magic but identify
with no especially nonhuman condition.
This better question is: are vampires/magicians like an overlapping venn diagram,
or more like squares and rectagles, such that all vampires are magicians in
some way, but not all magicians are actually vampires? can a person be a vampire
without also in some sense being a magician? Doesn't it require some kind of
'magical' capacity to energy drain someone? Whether 'trained' or not --
In case it is of interest to anyone, my own background with this was being
trained in a fashion that regarded 'magic' as the root condition of all phenomena,
and which by virtue of my disposition and circumstance tended to focus equally
on my development of 'vampiric' and 'magical' power without distinction from
one another.
Perhaps instead of "science" I should have written 'materialism.'
Wolfy^
Well that would make me tend to think, in your understanding for anything to
occur, energy must be transferred and that energy must be taken by some means.
Questioner:
what I am really questioning is, perhaps, whether you regard it as possible
for vampirism to be explained by the materialistic paradigm. (I could have answered
the question earlier 'what do I mean by magic,' with the response -- that which
neither materialism nor religion can account for.) So, if materialism *can*
account for vampirism, that would be very interesting to me.
Wolfy^
I find it curious how you mix physics with the tangible, thus it becomes a question
of metemphysics and is open to interpretation and existentialism. I just want
one thing to be clear when you say materialistic, and magic, I take that as
a tangible , and other than tangible. I don't want the explanation to get confused
in language
Questioner:
I mean materialistic as in, the prevaling doctrine passed off as science which
holds that: truth is comprehensible in the theory that material causation explains
all phenomena. And which implies also that scientific knowledge is necessarily
additive over time; we get 'closer and closer to knowing the truth.'
Wolfy^
Ok, and what mtype of vampirism would you like a material explanation for? Because
there are several interpretations of the word.
Questioner:
whatever seems relevant to you, really, or applicable.
Wolfy^
Ok lets take for example psychic vampirism: The act of taking energy from another
to feed upon. All persons possess energy - it is the thing that makes them live
and warm to the touch, the very spark that sends impulses through their nerves.
In essence what we call life
Questioner:
Yes, chemical reactions in the body. (from the materialists' point of view,
anyway)
Wolfy^
How persons have been know to classify this energy as a whole, in respect to
one individual. Right, I have to give it to you from that point of veiw for
the explanation to make sense. So in essence we are walking bags of chemicals
reating with each other creating more energy by the consumption of fuel
Questioner:
how would the 'chemicals' react without material contact?
Wolfy^
Electricity, microwaves, radiation - the things that we experience every day.
Heat from a body is radiation, sight is the absorbtion of microwaves. Emotions
are electro chemical responses. We don't need contact in a physical sense only
stmulation. The key is reaction, to others, because vampirism can not exist
in one. That is speculation.
Questioner:
So psychism would in this explanation be subsumed as interactions of unfamiliar
energies, or familiar energies in unfamliar ways. Well, that explanation definitely
illustrates how persons could say that vampirism was basically unrelated to
'magic' in the sense of magic being non-materialistic in nature.
Wolfy^
Your making assumptions, I haven't even finished the explanation. If you base
a decision on an assumption without working it through you will always get questions
Questioner:
Well, by all means, continue. I was just endeavoring to relate your commentary
to things people said in the channel.
Wolfy^
I'm not like minded, sorry. Ok, to define the nature of a life, and if it is
to survive, to live:
The nature that an entity uses to survive, directly relates to its function
and characteristics. Vampires have always been defined as entities that propagate
their lives by using the life, or energy of others, in essence consuming them.
Therefore Vampirism in essence could be applied to any living creature, except
that it is defined to only exist in humans, and it is only to occur in certain
ways, bringing us back to our example - To be that Vampire we must predate upon
humans in a way which releases from themselves an energy. to which we add to
our own. Usually this is unvoluntary, but many times it has become trendy for
it to be voluntary. However it must be explained how that energy is predated
[taken] and used, especially if it is in a non-physical sense:
It is sheer will, and deep understanding of the complex beings that we are.
By understanding how emotions are formed and interpreted, how sense and feeling
can be converted into energy by utilizing chemicals to cause a reaction, we
ultimately learn how to control our body into conditioning itself into response
by visual, physical, and sensual stimulus. The energy received is directly taken
from another, but the response has been so conditioned that most never see the
precursors to the socialistic nature. Vampirism is completly a social condition
that has been expolited in a materialistic definition without the socialization
of it it would not exist
Questioner:
Thank you for the detailed reply. This is helpful.
Wolfy^
No problem
Metempsychic definition, magical definition, or paranormal definition, is not
limited by those boundaries and those willing to accept extra sensory perceptions
as fact, would understand it in a broader sense. I believe more than the material,
if that means anything to you. :) However, I can not neglect what is evident
Questioner:
yes, that was quite handy.
Wolfy^
Your welcome
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